Because I'm not one for message boards often myself and would thus miss the fun, Ragnell tossed a link my way. I don't have the link anymore, unfortunately, but I can tell you what it was about and why it irked me.
This person was complaining about Sinestro Corps, which is perfectly understandable. (I loved it myself but different strokes and all...) But in it, he complained that Kyle Rayner was crying.
Because apparently, when you're broken down physically and emotionally, besieged on all sides, had a spirit of willpower yanked from your chest and was just told your mother was actually murdered because of her connection to you (a murder you might have been able to stop if you'd known in time), you're not actually allowed to shed some tears.
Okay, there are a few characters that I can understand being somewhat irritated by seeing them cry. Batman for example. If Batman's crying, something really fucked up is going on. I won't say I can't ever see it happening. But it's gotta be something huge. If it's not, I get irked. Guy Gardner's another one. Guy's not really likely to cry. Punch things, sure. Cry? Not so much. Maybe over Ice. Possibly when reconciling with the ghost of his abusive father. The writers really need to earn those tears damnit.
Kyle though. Kyle's a sensitive modern boy. He doesn't cry often, sure, but he's cried before. (For example, at Alexandra's grave.) For perfectly understandable reasons. He's not as much a machismo-laden basket case as say the two aforementioned hero-types and thus, while it's still incredibly rare that he'll need to cry (we ARE talking about superheroes after all), it's not unheard of. Kyle can and will cry when circumstances call for it.
There's nothing wrong with crying when it's a perfectly understandable and organic reaction to a situation.
I remember seeing an old episode of Earth Final Conflict, where one of the enemy alien race is explaining to the humans why his race split off from the "ally" alien race. And how it had initially started with a spiritual/philosophical difference. The ally race had decided become cerebral, giving up most of their emotions. As the alien race explains how his people simply couldn't and wouldn't do that, he's crying with absolutely no shame whatsoever. He's this gigantic warrior guy, with an attitude kind of similar to Star Trek's Klingons, and he's crying as he describes how his people would NOT relinquish their anger, sorrow, joy or passion, because that's who they were. And somehow, during the process, he seemed like even MORE of a flipping badass.
And well, hell, look at that preview for All Flash:
The fact that Wally is CRYING just raises the "oh shit" factor of this confrontation through the ROOF. I'm very, VERY happy to not be Inertia right at this moment. This is BAD.
There is one character I always have trouble with crying that has nothing to do with his characterization and that's Superman. I think it's perfectly in character for Clark Kent to be willing to cry. He's a mild-mannered, sensitive, open, nice sort of fellow. His parents aren't really the "suck it up" sort and he doesn't seem prone to ridiculous displays of machismo. I'm perfectly fine with Clark Kent crying.
But not when he's Superman. Not that I think Superman would be any less prone to crying than Clark, but the visual symbolism is all a bit much. If Clark's crying, it's because of something personal. Grief. Sorrow. Rage. Guilt. Whatever. If SUPERMAN's crying, it's because of something grand. It's not just a "big deal", it's a "there's something wrong with the WORLD" sort of deal.
It always seems very forced. Like a giant neon sign screaming "The Man of Steel is CRYING!!! This is BAD." I'm not saying it can't work in a specific sense, but in general, I really think it doesn't.
It's kind of like those old television commercials where people throw litter out their car window and it lands at the feet of a stately native american gentleman who sheds a single tear.
...I'm horrible, but I snickered at those commercials and the sparkly tear of emoness. It's just so over the top. And it's like that when Superman cries for me. It usually doesn't work.
Aside from that though, I don't necessarily think that there's anything wrong with crying as long as it's a relatively natural response to the circumstances. Like getting tortured and finding out your mother was murdered. And you had a giant space whale in your chest. Perfectly understandable reasons to cry.
Hmph.
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